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Context: I am from Bodø, a town just above the artic circle in northern norway. My mothers side have lived here for almost a thousand years as far as we can tell. We have many warcemeteris in the region that i visit about once a year or so, just to clean up the place and pay my respects. I mostly attend the Serbian ones because the russian ones are fairly often visited by russians living in norway. Last time i was there i thought that maybe some serbs would be interested in a little anecdote from my grandma about the serbs and the camps here.During WW2 Norway was (atleast compared to serbia) fairly well treated. Still many ended up in camps in Germany or prison locally. The Nazis imported many prisoners of war to Norway because there were almost as many german soldiers here as there was norwegians so they had a great deal of control, and by deporting prisoners from their home it would be much more difficult for the PoW to get help and escape. We had about 19 concentration camps in my region, many soviet prisoners but mostly Serbs in my area. The prisoners were used to make roads and railroads because of the poor local infrastructure (we are a fishing people). Most famoulsy is the “Blood road” or the “Bloody road” wich is a part of E6 streaching along Norway. Its called the blood road because of the terrible amounts of exicutions carried out during the construction of the road, mostly serbs and other yugoslavs. Now the bodies under the road have been moved to the cemeteries.My grandma was a child but this is what her father and his friends did during the occupation. They had a great deal of sympathy for the Serbs but it was very dangerous to be seen helping them, norwegians got away with more than serbs did, but activly helping prisoners could get you sent to a camp of your own. They did help a few serbs escape over to sweden, but this was few and far between, language barrier and so on made it very difficult to organize anything meaningfull. My great grandpa once used his skis and a sled to drag a Serb (we think, he couldnt tell the diffrence between foreginers of any sort but the majority of them were serbs) over the border, since the guy had been shot in his escape and would be killed if he if he stayed, atleast that how the story goes.Story: But here is the (kinda) fun part. Since the locals saw that the prisoners were starving they wanted to help. They couldnt give any meaningfull amount of food since they could be spotted, insted they trew bottles of “Tran” over the fence. “Tran” is cod liver oil, it is a very common health food in Norway, it contains a bunch of vitamins, fatty oils and Omega-3. Its very common to drink (or nowadays take a pill) once a day to stay healty. In general it was a practial thing to give out. It also tastes like death, atleast it did in the 40ties.The locals used to throw bottles over the fence and hoped that the PoWs would drink it to atleast get some nurishment. The bottles were quicly found, but the PoWs thougth that it was poison because the taste was so horrible, and were unsure wheter is was malice or pity that made the locals give them it. That ended when a friend of my great grandad hid out until the PoWs found a bottle near a fence. He snuck close to them and when spotted made a big show out of chugging half a bottle to make them see that it was not poison. Luckily that convinced many of them and it became fairly popular so they had to throw over allot during the war. Ive also heard that initialy many of the PoWs thought that the bottles were vodka, and that was one of the reason they became so sceptical when it was so oily and terrible, but im not sure about that part.My family didnt keep in contanct with any of the PoWs, all that survived went back to their homeland after the war, only to infrequently return to see the graves of their comrades. But my aunt did once meet a serbian woman who came to the area, and if her claims a true the “tran” helped a great deal of them survive the horrors.Sorry if this is a bit rambly, i just came to think about it when i saw something about Serbia in the news and i wanted to share. I know Serbs like dark humor (atleast according to my friend) so i tought that some of you might like this little story about those poor PoWs thinking even the occupied locals tried to poison them. I hope i have not offended anyone, that is not my intention and i will remove this post if am requested to do so. I have also added some links, unfortunatly most are in norwegian but if there is interest i could try to gather more in english. via /r/serbia https://ift.tt/o3XAYpd

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Context: I am from Bodø, a town just above the artic circle in northern norway. My mothers side have lived here for almost a thousand years as far as we can tell. We have many warcemeteris in the region that i visit about once a year or so, just to clean up the place and pay my respects. I mostly attend the Serbian ones because the russian ones are fairly often visited by russians living in norway. Last time i was there i thought that maybe some serbs would be interested in a little anecdote from my grandma about the serbs and the camps here.During WW2 Norway was (atleast compared to serbia) fairly well treated. Still many ended up in camps in Germany or prison locally. The Nazis imported many prisoners of war to Norway because there were almost as many german soldiers here as there was norwegians so they had a great deal of control, and by deporting prisoners from their home it would be much more difficult for the PoW to get help and escape. We had about 19 concentration camps in my region, many soviet prisoners but mostly Serbs in my area. The prisoners were used to make roads and railroads because of the poor local infrastructure (we are a fishing people). Most famoulsy is the “Blood road” or the “Bloody road” wich is a part of E6 streaching along Norway. Its called the blood road because of the terrible amounts of exicutions carried out during the construction of the road, mostly serbs and other yugoslavs. Now the bodies under the road have been moved to the cemeteries.My grandma was a child but this is what her father and his friends did during the occupation. They had a great deal of sympathy for the Serbs but it was very dangerous to be seen helping them, norwegians got away with more than serbs did, but activly helping prisoners could get you sent to a camp of your own. They did help a few serbs escape over to sweden, but this was few and far between, language barrier and so on made it very difficult to organize anything meaningfull. My great grandpa once used his skis and a sled to drag a Serb (we think, he couldnt tell the diffrence between foreginers of any sort but the majority of them were serbs) over the border, since the guy had been shot in his escape and would be killed if he if he stayed, atleast that how the story goes.Story: But here is the (kinda) fun part. Since the locals saw that the prisoners were starving they wanted to help. They couldnt give any meaningfull amount of food since they could be spotted, insted they trew bottles of “Tran” over the fence. “Tran” is cod liver oil, it is a very common health food in Norway, it contains a bunch of vitamins, fatty oils and Omega-3. Its very common to drink (or nowadays take a pill) once a day to stay healty. In general it was a practial thing to give out. It also tastes like death, atleast it did in the 40ties.The locals used to throw bottles over the fence and hoped that the PoWs would drink it to atleast get some nurishment. The bottles were quicly found, but the PoWs thougth that it was poison because the taste was so horrible, and were unsure wheter is was malice or pity that made the locals give them it. That ended when a friend of my great grandad hid out until the PoWs found a bottle near a fence. He snuck close to them and when spotted made a big show out of chugging half a bottle to make them see that it was not poison. Luckily that convinced many of them and it became fairly popular so they had to throw over allot during the war. Ive also heard that initialy many of the PoWs thought that the bottles were vodka, and that was one of the reason they became so sceptical when it was so oily and terrible, but im not sure about that part.My family didnt keep in contanct with any of the PoWs, all that survived went back to their homeland after the war, only to infrequently return to see the graves of their comrades. But my aunt did once meet a serbian woman who came to the area, and if her claims a true the “tran” helped a great deal of them survive the horrors.Sorry if this is a bit rambly, i just came to think about it when i saw something about Serbia in the news and i wanted to share. I know Serbs like dark humor (atleast according to my friend) so i tought that some of you might like this little story about those poor PoWs thinking even the occupied locals tried to poison them. I hope i have not offended anyone, that is not my intention and i will remove this post if am requested to do so. I have also added some links, unfortunatly most are in norwegian but if there is interest i could try to gather more in english. via /r/serbia https://ift.tt/o3XAYpd

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So I run a YouTube channel called Metro6 that looks at the history of transit in Toronto and I thought I would share some interesting things I have learned over my time doing it. Most people are aware of things like Lower Bay, Lower Queen, the roughed in Etobicoke RT platform at Kipling etc. so I wont touch on those.Line 1When planning the original section of the subway (Eglinton – Union) the open air section of the line was originally planned to extend all the way to Wellesley Station (Bloor and Wellesley themselves would likely have still been underground though). This part of the line was buried entirely to reduce property acquisitions and ease fears about property values.The northern extension of the line from Eglinton was originally planned to go to Steeles and included stations at Glencairn Avenue (or Blythwood Road) and Glen Echo Road. These stations would be cut as a cost saving measure. The extension to Steeles was cut as the TTC felt that neither Vaughan or Markham had adequate water/sewer infrastructure to handle the development that would follow at the time.York Mills Station was originally planned to be built elevated above the Don Valley, with the line crossing the valley at first on a short bridge, but this was later changed to a high level viaduct. Local opposition fearing loss of property values forced the TTC to put this section of the line underground and York Mills Station under the Don River. This as you guessed increased the cost and complexity of the project. 5 people would also die building York Mills Station.The segment of the line between St.Clair and Summerhill used to be exposed. It was decked over however in the 70’s. You can still tell that the area was once open if you look out the window and notice how your in a tunnel but it looks nothing like the rest of the network.There were many people who pushed for the Spadina Extension of the line to be built under either Bathurst Street or Dufferin Street.After the Spadina Expressway was cancelled, the subway extension wasn’t immediately impacted as it was still planned to run in the open to St.Clair West Station. Due to local opposition however this section of the line between St.Clair West and Eglinton West was buried. As a result a proposed station at Glen Cedar Road was cut.Spadina Station was originally supposed to be called Lowther and wasn’t supposed to have a connection to its Line 2 counter part. The long corridor connecting the two Spadina’s was tact on later in planning.The TTC looked at giving Downsview Station an east-west alignment to make an easier transfer and possible interlining with the proposed Sheppard Subway. This however never occurred as the subway would have needed to pass under Downsview Airport which was still an Air force base at the time. The RCAF would veto this alignment as it passed to close to a munitions facility and so Downsview (now Sheppard West) was given its current North-South alignment.Line 2Line 2 was originally planned to be built in 2 phases. Phase 1 was to run from St.George to Greenwood, while phase 2 would see the line extended at both ends to Woodbine and Keele. The Province would pitch in money to get these extensions built as part of Phase 1. They would pitch in even more money later to extend the line to Warden and Islington.Islington and Royal York weren’t part of the original extension plan. At first stations were planned for Prince Edward Drive and Montgomery Road to book end the Kingsway Shopping District. The TTC would revise this plan though and move these stations to there current locations at Royal York and Islington as these roads were far more important.Both Keele and Woodbine have closed off areas that used to lead to now long gone Streetcar Loops. In the case of Keele there are abandoned moving walkways that would have taken passengers from the platforms to the streetcar loop. At Woodbine there is an abandoned hallway that would have done the same; it is now a storage area.Donlands Station was underpinned as part of its construction. The TTC had believed and had early plans for the Downtown Relief Line to connect here. Pape Station would eventually become the preferred choice for an interchange with the DRL, it however was never underpinned.The line crosses the Rosedale Ravine between Castle Frank and Sherbourne. The bridge it crosses used to have skylights to let natural light in.The TTC would have liked for the extension to Kennedy to have been built at-grade, however local opposition and the many rail spurs from the CN GECO subdivision forced the TTC to put this extension underground. While this is speculation on my part, I do wonder if there would have been a station built at Birchmount had this extension been built at grade.Early in planning Spadina Station was to be called Walmer, Christie was to be called Willowvale, and Dundas West was to be called Vincent.Line 3You can still see the original streetcar platform under the modern one at Kennedy Station.Kennedy Station used to have 2 tracks and the RT would go around the loop. (This one is a more commonly known thing but I thought I would include it anyway).Line 4Sheppard Station was constructed with a roughed in centre platform if ridership ever got high enough at the station to need trains opening doors on both sides.The Sheppard Line crosses a branch of the Don River immediately east of Leslie Station although you don’t get to see this as the bridge is completely enclosed (https://ift.tt/fyMYXbH). via /r/toronto https://ift.tt/rkX6h7p

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